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Also, this latest plugin is only tested to wordpress 2.6.1? I hope this is a typo in the release and disqus means 2.7.1 (the latest)
Finally, wondering if disqus had a chance to fix track backs on wordpress. I spoke to a developer a few times about it and i'm more than happy to help and let disqus use my blog as a test-bed.
thanks!
It solves the goal, but a spammer doesn't care if No Follow is on or in effect because they're not checking. They won't benefit in the long run, but that won't stop them from spamming the hell out of your blog in the first place.
Secondly, turning on No Follow only hurts legitimate linkers and commenters who give linky love to their posts or to other posts. In other words, the net effect is an ineffective spam stopper that hurts legitimate users who should benefit from followed links.
You guys really need to get your heads on straight and fix the spam issues. So far I see a lot of ancillary stuff and a lot of fixes for things that aren't at the heart of the problem (including Facebook connect? Come on!).
I liked disqus a lot in the time I had it installed (I even would've paid for a premium version if it were offered!), but at the rate you guys are going, I'm quite glad it's gone. Your non-reaction to a huge problem has convinced me that I'm better off keeping control of my comments in my hands on my server with Akismet which, incidentally, is catching the spam that Disqus was letting through.
It solves the goal, but a spammer doesn't care if No Follow is on or in effect because they're not checking. They won't benefit in the long run, but that won't stop them from spamming the hell out of your blog in the first place.
Secondly, turning on No Follow only hurts legitimate linkers and commenters who give linky love to their posts or to other posts. In other words, the net effect is an ineffective spam stopper that hurts legitimate users who should benefit from followed links.
You guys really need to get your heads on straight and fix the spam issues. So far I see a lot of ancillary stuff and a lot of fixes for things that aren't at the heart of the problem (including Facebook connect? Come on!).
I liked disqus a lot in the time I had it installed (I even would've paid for a premium version if it were offered!), but at the rate you guys are going, I'm quite glad it's gone. Your non-reaction to a huge problem has convinced me that I'm better off keeping control of my comments in my hands on my server with Akismet which, incidentally, is catching the spam that Disqus was letting through.
We've done a lot to address spam from many angles, many of which is not viewable to you as a user. Calling this non-reaction is absolutely untrue.
What's ancillary about evolving the product? Spammers are prolific and persistent; should we sit idle while we wait for their next technique? I personally do not think so. Your last statement is a bit amusing because Disqus tapped into Akismet for some of the filtering (it no longer serves as a complete solution for us either).
Appreciate the thoughts though, Vinny.
2.04 is the version for our Disqus Comment Plugin not the version of the WordPress plugin. Our plugin works fully with Wordpress 2.7.1. =)
Can you forward me the emails regarding the trackbacks?
Cheers,
Giannii
DISQUS
Community Manager
giannii@disqus.com
In the right column it reads: Compatible up to: 2.6.1
That, IMO, will lessen the spammers who are after the no no-follow sites with comments. Addressing the other type of spammers requires another approach. For example, people who were hired to spam, are more challenging to combat than the bot-spammers ;) And these type of spammers are getting more and more ingenious and creative.
My two cents
It would seem to combat spam we should penalize those who initiate it. Not with 30 days jail time, or house arrest or whatever. 1st time conviction, $1,000,000.00 or 5 years in jail. 2nt time 5,000,000 and 5 years in jail. Of course there would have to be a baseline acceptable for this degree of penalty, overwhelming evidence, etc. etc. You can't just run around passing out penalties of that magnitude on small offenders, or people who broke the law out of ignorance.
The point is, until stronger stances are made there will be no fear, no fear of loss, no fear of death, these might be the most common characteristics in criminals. If we cannot instill fear, than creating solutions for the symptoms is the our solution.
Yes I did use "unscrupulous spam mongering buffoons" , it took on a life of it's own, I considered "unscrupulous spam mongering troglodytes"....haha
It would seem to combat spam we should penalize those who initiate it. Not with 30 days jail time, or house arrest or whatever. 1st time conviction, $1,000,000.00 or 5 years in jail. 2nt time 5,000,000 and 5 years in jail. Of course there would have to be a baseline acceptable for this degree of penalty, overwhelming evidence, etc. etc. You can't just run around passing out penalties of that magnitude on small offenders, or people who broke the law out of ignorance.
The point is, until stronger stances are made there will be no fear, no fear of loss, no fear of death, these might be the most common characteristics in criminals. If we cannot instill fear, than creating solutions for the symptoms is our only solution.
Yes I did use "unscrupulous spam mongering buffoons" , it took on a life of it's own, I considered "unscrupulous spam mongering troglodytes"....haha
It would seem to combat spam we should penalize those who initiate it. Not with 30 days jail time, or house arrest or whatever. 1st time conviction, $1,000,000.00 or 5 years in jail. 2nt time 5,000,000 and 5 years in jail. Of course there would have to be a baseline acceptable for this degree of penalty, overwhelming evidence, etc. etc. You can't just run around passing out penalties of that magnitude on small offenders, or people who broke the law out of ignorance.
The point is, until stronger stances are made there will be no fear, no fear of loss, no fear of death, these might be the most common characteristics in criminals. If we cannot instill fear, than creating solutions for the symptoms is our only solution.
Yes I did use "unscrupulous spam mongering buffoons" , it took on a life of it's own, I considered "unscrupulous spam mongering troglodytes"....haha
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I would like the option of turning off the no-follow attribute as I would like to reward legitimate commenters for leaving their thoughts. Is this an option?
I would like the option of turning off the no-follow attribute as I would like to reward legitimate commenters for leaving their thoughts. Is this an option?
I would like the option of turning off the no-follow attribute as I would like to reward legitimate commenters for leaving their thoughts. Is this an option?
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It solves the goal, but a spammer doesn't care if No Follow is on or in effect because they're not checking. They won't benefit in the long run, but that won't stop them from spamming the hell out of your blog in the first place.
Secondly, turning on No Follow only hurts legitimate linkers and commenters who give linky love to their posts or to other posts. In other words, the net effect is an ineffective spam stopper that hurts legitimate users who should benefit from followed links.
You guys really need to get your heads on straight and fix the spam issues. So far I see a lot of ancillary stuff and a lot of fixes for things that aren't at the heart of the problem (including Facebook connect? Come on!).
I liked disqus a lot in the time I had it installed (I even would've paid for a premium version if it were offered!), but at the rate you guys are going, I'm quite glad it's gone. Your non-reaction to a huge problem has convinced me that I'm better off keeping control of my comments in my hands on my server with Akismet which, incidentally, is catching the spam that Disqus was letting through.
We've done a lot to address spam from many angles, many of which is not viewable to you as a user. Calling this non-reaction is absolutely untrue.
What's ancillary about evolving the product? Spammers are prolific and persistent; should we sit idle while we wait for their next technique? I personally do not think so. Your last statement is a bit amusing because Disqus tapped into Akismet for some of the filtering (it no longer serves as a complete solution for us either).
Appreciate the thoughts though, Vinny.
That, IMO, will lessen the spammers who are after the no no-follow sites with comments. Addressing the other type of spammers requires another approach. For example, people who were hired to spam, are more challenging to combat than the bot-spammers ;) And these type of spammers are getting more and more ingenious and creative.
My two cents
Also, this latest plugin is only tested to wordpress 2.6.1? I hope this is a typo in the release and disqus means 2.7.1 (the latest)
Finally, wondering if disqus had a chance to fix track backs on wordpress. I spoke to a developer a few times about it and i'm more than happy to help and let disqus use my blog as a test-bed.
thanks!
2.04 is the version for our Disqus Comment Plugin not the version of the WordPress plugin. Our plugin works fully with Wordpress 2.7.1. =)
Can you forward me the emails regarding the trackbacks?
Cheers,
Giannii
DISQUS
Community Manager
help@disqus.com
In the right column it reads: Compatible up to: 2.6.1